[streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC for Windows?

Thu Jun 16 14:33:33 CEST 2005

Hi Jonas,

The options that you mention are not available with my Hauppauge 150 card, unfortunately.
Thank you very much for your assistance. I guess I will have to modify the VLC source code in order to handle the 150 card.

Regards

Henrik

-----Original Message-----
From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org
[mailto:streaming-bounce at videolan.org]On Behalf Of list at scttransport.dk
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:06 PM
To: streaming at videolan.org
Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC
for Windows?

Ya, not as much as I wanted but I did a basic udp streaming form my pvr350
and as I remembered it worked fine without having to transcode anything, I
chose a format in the pvr driver properties via the dshow pane, the drivers
let u chose amongst mpeg ps, mpeg ts dvd, svcd and vcd. Which all work
pretty well, I use mpeg 2 ps, which is then encapsulated in mpeg 2 ts by
vlc, and I do not touch any transcode options, the cpu load while streaming
this is below 6% on my athlon 3200. It might very well be the drivers for
the 150 are different, although as far as I can see form some snooping
around on the Hauppauge site they seam to use same drivers for 150,250,350
and 500?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org [mailto:streaming-bounce at videolan.org]
> On Behalf Of Henrik Kjær Nielsen
> Sent: 15. juni 2005 15:59
> To: streaming at videolan.org
> Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC
> for Windows?
> 
> Hi Jonas,
> 
> Did you get a chance to find out what you do to stream MPEG2?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org
> [mailto:streaming-bounce at videolan.org]On Behalf Of list at scttransport.dk
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:18 PM
> To: streaming at videolan.org
> Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC
> for Windows?
> 
> 
> Hi Henrik
> 
> I think this might be because u are using the pvr150 which is a quite
> newer
> product than the bigger and older models pvr250 and pvr350 most vlc users
> have reported in about. I use the pvr350 at work and I can stream mpeg2
> off
> the device without transcoding. On the other hand I am 95% sure that when
> I
> tested the card extensively in many different apps I could NOT use it as a
> normal capture device with generic applications. This was simply because
> such a driver is not provided by Hauppauge. I know graphedit too, I cant
> remember what the specific name that shows up in the video device list in
> the directshow dialog in vlc is, but I am pretty sure it's the one that
> corresponds to mpeg-2, without being certain I thought thaty the capture
> "element" had its output "fed" into the encoder "element" atleast I think
> hats how I build some of my graphs in graphedit when I was testing.
> 
> I can get you the name that appears on my system on Tuesday when im at
> work,
> and confirm tha ti can stream without transcoding.
> 
> Regards
> Jonas Larsen
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org [mailto:streaming-
> bounce at videolan.org]
> > On Behalf Of Henrik Kjær Nielsen
> > Sent: 11. juni 2005 10:53
> > To: streaming at videolan.org
> > Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC
> > for Windows?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If I use the GUI (File, Open Capture Device) a new window is opened and
> I
> > can choose the video and audio device names. For video I can select only
> > the "Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture" entry which corresponds to the
> > raw video output (not MPEG2 encoded) on the "Hauppage WinTV PCI II
> > Capture" directshow filter. Similar for audio. There is just no way to
> > choose the MPEG2-encoded output which by the way is to be taken from the
> > MPEG output pin on the "Hauppage WinTV PCI II Encoder" filter (I am
> > referring to the directshow graphs that you  can build and test using
> > GraphEdit).
> >
> > So if this is not what you do to stream MPEG2 directly, what are you
> > actually doing?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Henrik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org
> > [mailto:streaming-bounce at videolan.org]On Behalf Of list at scttransport.dk
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:44 PM
> > To: streaming at videolan.org
> > Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC
> > for Windows?
> >
> >
> > That's not true for the 350pvr, u cant use it to capture video with in
> > programs like virtualdub or other generic video capture programs.
> Atleast
> > not as far as I know, and have tested. I am referring to the windows
> > platform and directshow. You do not have to transcode the directshow
> > signal
> > from the pvr because its already in mpeg-2 format which the vlc server
> can
> > just send to the clients.
> >
> > I do not know a lot about how it works in linux.
> >
> > Regarding mrl's u can simply use the gui dialog to generate them.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Jonas Larsen
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org [mailto:streaming-
> > bounce at videolan.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Henrik Kjær Nielsen
> > > Sent: 10. juni 2005 16:33
> > > To: streaming at videolan.org
> > > Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using
> VLC
> > > for Windows?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > When you say that you can make VLC stream MPEG from Hauppauge 350, are
> > you
> > > then referring to Windows or Linux? In case it works for you in
> Windows,
> > > how does VLC's Media Resource Locator (MRL) look like?
> > >
> > > Sure, the PVR cards will work as capture cards and can therefore
> deliver
> > > raw video and audio in addition to MPEG2.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org
> > > [mailto:streaming-bounce at videolan.org]On Behalf Of
> list at scttransport.dk
> > > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:13 PM
> > > To: streaming at videolan.org
> > > Subject: [streaming] Re: Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using
> VLC
> > > for Windows?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > As far as I know you can do what u want without problems.
> > >
> > > I can stream mpeg-2 off of the Hauppauge pvr350 without transcoding.
> > >
> > > As far as I know the pvr cards cant delivber anything else than mpeg
> > data,
> > > so if u can read from the card it should work?
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: streaming-bounce at videolan.org [mailto:streaming-
> > > bounce at videolan.org]
> > > > On Behalf Of Henrik Kjær Nielsen
> > > > Sent: 10. juni 2005 09:42
> > > > To: streaming at videolan.org
> > > > Subject: [streaming] Streaming MPEG2 from Hauppauge PVR150 using VLC
> > for
> > > > Windows?
> > > >
> > > > It is unclear to me if it is actually possible to stream live
> > > audio/video
> > > > in compressed format (MPEG2) from a Hauppauge PVR-150 encoder card
> > using
> > > > VLC for Windows.
> > > > More specifically, I want to stream the compressed data served by
> the
> > > > Hauppauge onboard encoder instead of having VLC transcode the raw
> > > > audio/video data.
> > > >
> > > > The DirectShow frontend in VLC will only recognise the capture
> filters
> > > > audio and video output pins (the "Audio Out" and "Capture" pins on
> the
> > > > "Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture" filter).
> > > > To get access to the MPEG2 PS stream directly from the hardware
> > encoder
> > > it
> > > > is necessary to connect to the "MPEG" output pin on the "Hauppauge
> > WinTV
> > > > PVR PCI II Encoder" filter. The encoder filter itself must be
> > connected
> > > to
> > > > the capture filters "656" output pin.
> > > >
> > > > My question is: Is it possible to instruct VLC to include the
> > "Hauppauge
> > > > WinTV PVR PCI II Encoder" filter in its graph and to directly stream
> > the
> > > > output from the "MPEG" pin?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards
> > > >
> > > > Henrik
> > > >
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