[streaming] Re: WMP and VLC streaming

[Simen Thoresen]

Viktor Kompaneyets wrote:
> Simen Thoresen wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've just started looking into streaming from a (transcoding) VLC server
>> to (several) WMP clients. My target would typically be a real-time
>> captured stream sent to several Win2k and WinXP clients, running whatever
>> WMP-versions the users have installed, and my aim is something that 'just
>> works' for the users, ie without having to download any extra codecs,
>> plugins or programs.
>>
> It works for me with 'vcodec=WMV2', not DIV3! DIV3 is an DivX v3 codec,
> thaht often is installed by other software.
> [...]

Hi Viktor,

Just tested with WMV2 on an (unmodified) WMP9 WinXP machine - same 
problem (video codec is detected correctly as 'Windows Media Video 8' , 
no indication that WMP finds anything wrong, but video rendered only as 
a horizontal line).

>> My questions; Is the line in the HOWTO known to work with other WMPs than
>> WMP10? 
> 
> It works (tested) with installed DivX3 codec in WMP 6,7,9,10 (often - with
> ffdshow package)

I would think that installing 'non-standard' (ie non-MS-supplied) codecs 
would make almost anything work, as long as it fits into the WMP-framework.

>> Specifically, is it known to work with unmodified WinXP and Win2K 
>> WMPs? In that case, what am I doing wrong?
> 
> AFAIK - 'out of box' works only WMV2 on _any_ Win32 without additional
> codecks to be installed. 

Nope, WMV2 does not work on WMP9 (see above).
Likewise, DIV3 (as the HOWTO suggests) works just as well on similarily 
unmodified WMP10 installs. WMV2 works on these as well.

Could it be that my transcoder version(s) are mangling the stream 
somehow, so that it no-longer is compatible with WMP9 (ie, that the 
codecs are supported and work, but the stream itself is broken against 
WMP9 clients?

Viktor, if you have this running - could you make a stream available 
that I can connect to with a WMP9 client? Please mail-me off list if you 
can/want to help so we can agree on a time/date for the test.

>> Also, a more general question; Is this the correct  approach for this
>> project - I want to be able to stream to as many WMP-installs as possible,
>> with no control over the client configuration. I'm fairly new to streaming
>> and while I do enjoy learning about it, my ultimate goal is something that
>> is usable.
> 
> Yes, if you're shure, that there is MP3 codec is compiled in.

I of course am not (I have no idea which codecs are bundled with a 
typical WMP install), but so far, MP3 audio has worked without problems 
on all unmodified WMP9 and -10 installs, so I'm assuming that WMP9 and 
-10 come with MP3 codec support compiled (or at least bundled) in.

So - my question remains - is there a VLC configuration that is able to 
transcode and stream to 'any' WMP9 and -10 (preferably others as well) 
install?
'Any', in this case meaning that only the codecs bundled with it, or 
available on Microsofts automatic download-service are used.

-S
-- 
Simen Thoresen, Wulfkit Support, Dolphin ICS
http://www.tysland.com/~simentt/cluster

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