[vlc-devel] Re: win32 suggestions, reminders about bugs, features and test results
emulynx at delfi.lv
Mon May 26 14:28:26 CEST 2003
Monday, May 26, 2003, 2:58:53 PM, you wrote:
DJH> Man, you have some list here. Good work in tracking all this.
>> These are about implementing standard windows hotkeys.
>> They might be closed or appended with
DJH> This isn't done yet. Although there are standard keys assigned now to
DJH> the directx video window.
>> I think vlc-0.6.0 _MUST_ have windows-like behaviour so everybody
>> could enjoy VERY stable player. It should be possible to make keys
>> skin-specific. Please get the Media Player Classic and check their
>> awesome "Keys" menu.
DJH> Skin specific? I'm already aposed to the whole skins idea. I think
DJH> Hotkeys should be the same everywhere. It's one of my biggest
DJH> annoyances of Windows, you never know which hotkey belongs to
DJH> something. I always know on MacOSX.
Well, let's see. Let's say I want to implement PowerDVD functionality
using VLC ;) I'll need to change hotkeys for that. Ok, if it's not
possible, then you definately need to change default keys mentioned in
Wiki to WINDOWS style keys.
Left/Right: seek (5 secs)
Up/Down: fast seeking (60 secs)
- Up/Down usually is used for volume control under windows.
Page Up/Page Down: very fast seeking (900 secs).
Home/End: Beginning/End of file
- Ehm, End for end of file? It will close the file in theory since
it's the end.
- How about Alt-Enter?
q/Q: quit vlc
Alt-F4 ? :)
>> There's also interface-related thingie
DJH> Autogenerated menu's. This is being implemented right now. I think you
DJH> will love this.
>> which wasn't implemented yet (or will never be implemented) but it
>> reminds about missing audio controls in current win32 version.
DJH> slider for the volume. Good point. where is it? well i know at least
DJH> the prefs have sliders now for certain values, i think this control
DJH> definitely needs to be added before release.
Oh yeah, I can feel it coming.
>> wxWindows context menu opened by rightclick on win32 should be
>> closed by single click on video output, not only on interface.
DJH> I'm not sure about this status. Actually i'm not even sure this can be
>> It is not possible to close video window when context menu is
DJH> If you fix the above, i think you automatically fix this. problem.
>> I also think that player should not be closed when video is closed.
>> I have to open player each time to open new video and I don't want
>> to go to interface (e.g. it's overlapped by the interface and i'm
>> too lazy to use taskbar), push stop and then open new video.
DJH> It does this? i thought it only quit when you hit the close on the
DJH> video output. (Which also is bad btw).
Yes, it does.
>> I was also thinking about window names. Interface is VLC but the
>> name was changed to "VLC Media Player"? Second one (video) is
>> VLC (-ware direct/whatever output). Third one is just "Playlist".
>> Did you get the point?
DJH> VLC media player to be exact. and no i didn't get the point completely
How about renaming the titlebar?
>> And BTW. Every time new video is being played you are closing old
>> surface (or whatever) and opening new one... Is this good or bad
>> thing :) ?
DJH> At the moment it's preferable over the old way in which we didn't do
DJH> this. I agree though that one of the things i liked about the old
DJH> method is that you could watch a two part movie, without a flicker
DJH> between them.
>> This one should be closed:
>> It works here under XP (yuck), but 2 other problems arise:
>> 1) Default behaviour should be "add to playlist". After second
>> doubleclick on associated file second instance of vlc is opened
>> right now.
DJH> Ipkiss !!!!!!!!
DJH> Mmm, please do so if you can reproduce this, but it might be a windows
DJH> only problem of course.
>> Some of the users were talking about aspect ratios and resizing...
>> There was
>> You might want to get (nah, not again) http://www.gabest.org/mpc.php
>> and see how keypad works for changing aspect ratios. You can also
>> get their 16:9 and other presets. It's annoying to force video
>> aspect ratio in preferences each time.
DJH> I agree, we need to have an aspect ratio and 'crop blackbars' menu.
DJH> It's really annoying seeing 16:9 video encoded in 4:3 on a 16:9 screen.
DJH> And people do that a lot. However i don't think this is gonna make it
DJH> to 0.6.0 It's something for a next release.
>> This one is one of the most requested (after famous IV50, LOL):
>> Is it really that hard? In SDL it's just one line of code...
>> Something like that should exist in DirectX too.
DJH> Yeah, but we want a way that works on every platform of course ;)
DJH> There was someone on the list working on this, but i haven't seen much
DJH> of him for some time.
>> Changing video size using wheel... I don't personally like that
>> idea. No players except BSPlayer have such behaviour.
>> Usually wheel is used to change volume, but it might be a good idea
>> to use key modifier to change something else (ctrl+wheel = window
>> size, alt + wheel = seeking, shift + wheel = speed (like in
>> powerdvd - 2x, 4x, 8x)).
DJH> Good thinking. i agree that volume is a better choice then screensize.
DJH> I've been thinking of implementing this for osx for some time.
>> And that bug:
>> is a really longrunner. It happens with most formats and broken
>> seeking is really annoying, not to mention missing frame-by-frame
>> advance (let's hope that at least somebody from the people who
>> mentioned they are working on that will fix it).
DJH> It's inherent to the VLC structure which uses packets. fenrir just
DJH> mailed that he would start on a new input code after 0.6.0 to be able
DJH> to fix all this. John Zorko (list) is also working on this. This one is
DJH> realy big in the amount of effort it will require to fix.
Yeah, I heard about it.
DJH> So in short:
DJH> What needs to be done now:
DJH> - shortcuts for menu entries.
DJH> - slider for the volume
DJH> - check float on top
DJH> - contextual menu close behaviour on windows
DJH> - directx window close behaviour
DJH> - drag and drop playlist behaviour
DJH> - menu entry "Logs" -> "Messages"
DJH> - fix the problem fixed by gildas test release to you
DJH> What we need to fix
DJH> - menu entries for window zoom
DJH> - file association
DJH> - libmpeg2 crashes
DJH> - aspect ratio/crop menu
DJH> - screenshot plugin
DJH> - mousewheel behaviour
DJH> - fix packet/frames issue
DJH> Thanks again for bringing all this to our attention.
Thank you for the great player.
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