[vlc-devel] Re: GPL issues ( was: Re: How can add a new codec module to VLC?)

Fri May 21 10:59:40 CEST 2004

On Thursday 20 May 2004 16:36, Dermot McGahon wrote:
> 
> You know what I'm working on, unicast and multicast udp streaming of
> mpeg2-ts from Kasenna vod servers.
> 
> If we were to use vlc for this, obviously any changes to vlc would be
> made public as it is gpl and any changes to Live would be public (if
> only as patchset against a known revision) as it is lgpl.
> 
> This would be only part of a larger system though, basically you could
> call it a distribution (it is entertainment touchscreen based system
> for hospital bedsides). As long as the gpl and lgpl code was public,
> and the resulting vlc/live combination was exec'd, or controlled through
> stdin from a named pipe or somesuch, by the rest of the system, would
> this meet the vlc definition of 'completely Free and Open Source'.
> 

Yes this unambiguously allowed by the GPL.

>
> The biggest problem for us might actually be if we invest a lot of time
> and effort into a snazzy gui which then has to be gpl'd and available
> to all our competitors. This could even be a reason for us to drop vlc,
> mplayer, altogether, and implement a much reduced functionality media
> player using only proprietary and lgpl code. I'm not looking for
> forward to implementing such a beast though, certainly not as a sole
> developer. I think it's a very big job.
> 
> We obtain a lot of benefit from using open source software. We want to
> contribute back to the community where we can. That said, we can't
> afford to allow the gpl to virally infect many years of proprietary
> hard work, especially in a competitive commercial environment.
> 

I totally understand that... but nobody forces you to use any codebase from 
a GPL project.

The choice is quite clear here. Either you decide to save you an enormous 
amount of work by re-using a GPL project (unless you find another project 
using a more permissive license), in which case it is only fair to abide to 
the license of the code you will be using. Or you decide to reimplement 
everything yourself and then choose whichever licensing you wish.

The GPL is not about restrictions, it is about giving you a choice.

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Subject: [vlc-devel] Re: Mozilla Plugin
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:55:04 +0200
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So he is gonna give the YES/NO on this?
Since it's a rather big change i vote it at least will not make the =20
0.7.2 release, but after that, is this code clean enough that someone =20=

can commit it?

DJ

On 30 apr 2004, at 10:56, Michael Pron wrote:
> I'm fact it's completely useless, so it can be remove without any =20
> problems.
> This are some traces of previous try.
> Thanks
> mkl
>
> Le 30/04 01:34, Sigmund Augdal a =E9crit :
>> Seems like vlc_peer.cpp still includes these files:
>> +#include "vlc_common.h"
>> +#include <vlc/intf.h>
>> +
>> +
>> +#include <input_ext-plugins.h>
>>
>> That is in my opinion bad, but I can't see any code in there that =20
>> needs it.
>> Is it safe to remove?
>>
>> Sigmund
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 02:10:56PM +0200, Michael Pron wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here i send you the patches of the work I've done on the mozilla =20
>>> plugin.
>>> I hope it can help.
>>> I add some functions in libvlc.c, and in vlcpeer.cpp. Now, you can =20=

>>> call via javascript some functions like:
>>>
>>>  get_length()
>>>  get_position()
>>>  Mute()
>>>  Is_Mute()
>>>  Playlist_status()
>>>  Get_index_of_actual_item_in_playlist()
>>>  Get_Number_of_item_in_playlist()
>>>  Access_item_in_playlist(in PRInt64 item_number)
>>>  prev_in_playlist()
>>>  next_in_playlist()
>>>  add_item_to_playlist(in string item_name)
>>>  slower_video()
>>>  faster_video()
>>>  goto_from_begin(in PRInt64 sec)
>>>  goto_from_current_position(in PRInt64 sec)
>>>
>>>
>>> patch_libvlc : cvs diff -u ./src/libvlc.c
>>> patch_mozilla : cvs diff -u ./mozilla
>>> patch_include_vlc : cvs diff -u ./include/vlc
>>>
>>> mkl

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