[vlc-devel] commit: input: Remove p_playlist gc signaling now that the playlist is aware of vlc_InputSelectedStreamChanged . (Pierre d'Herbemont )

Rémi Denis-Courmont rdenis at simphalempin.com
Sun Jun 15 17:47:10 CEST 2008

Le dimanche 15 juin 2008 15:55:04 Pierre d'Herbemont, vous avez écrit :
> > You just
> > cannot destroy the playlist until the directory plugin has not
> > completed
> > reading its directory (which is a set of non-blocking operations).
> Actually it doesn't work, and you'll end up in leaking some input
> item, if you kill libvlc during directory processing. I am not sure
> about why.

What's the point of using object reference counting if you cannot hold objects 
anyway??? Besides, the playlist is supposed to wait for the input to 
terminate, which is supposed to wait for the demux to terminate. If you 
intend to have a strictly hierarchical objects handling, then references 
really are useless.

Of course, there is a problem with the circular holding pattern, even if it is 
time-bound. If an "owner" releases an object while that object is held by its 
own child, when the child release the object, it accidentally destroys its 
parent. That's why you've added the pthread_detach hack. Unfortunately, if 
the "owner" happens to be libvlc, from libvlc_destroy(), then you may destroy 
critical core resources such as the playlist (which causes an assertion with 
the playlist_item reference checks), or worse, the messages bank, the modules 
bank, and finally the threads and objects subsystem (these will cause 

The real problem here, is that merging vlc_object_release and 
vlc_object_destroy was a bad idea. The "owner" of an object should not rely 
on vlc_object_release, it should call vlc_object_destroy, which should _wait_ 
until all references are gone. To put it another way, the pthread_detach() 
hack cannot ever work properly.

Rémi Denis-Courmont

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