[vlc-devel] I am firmly against including GROWL as part of the VLC Install

Felix Paul Kühne fkuehne.videolan at googlemail.com
Tue Apr 12 22:36:56 CEST 2011


Thanks  for your feedback. The Growl framework included with VLC does _not_ contain an installer for Growl. It only allows VLC to send Growl notifications, in case these are activated by the user. Growl notifications are off by default.
To install Growl, you need to download it from Growl.info. There is no way and won't be a way to do so within VLC since we will stick to our policy to not include any third party installers.

Best regards,


On 12.04.2011, at 20:04, Jim Coffey <coffey_jim at hotmail.com> wrote:

> When are developers going to realize if we want additional software we will get it on our own?
> I can't stand it when Windows Programs added additional nonsense in their installers and I thought I was through with that idiocy on the MAC.
> No need to reply with why you did it.
> I straight up think it's a fucking abomination and you couldn't give me a valid reason why you feel the need to force unrelated software on me, because one doesn't exist.
> Add to that only very technical users are going to need Growl in the first place and therefore could easily install it themselves.  Non-technical users will get confused by a deluge of new GROWL messages they don't understand and didn't ask for.
> I already had the version of Growl I needed, but I had to go in and verify that version before and after your install because your update is silent and I had no idea what you were doing to my machine.
> You think your average user playing Divx, Xvid, or WMV files needs Growl alerts?
> Good fucking god, what is wrong with you people?
> Jim
> P.S. I couldn't live without GROWL, but I don't need it as part of every god damn VLC update. Whoever OK'd that decision should be fired from the project as they have proven their ignorance and incompetence through this ridiculous decision. Same goes for the VLC WMV team. I'm surprised WMV files even play with how bad your developers have been on that rather ubiquitous format.
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