[vlc-devel] Report of potential Code of Conduct violation

[Ilkka Ollakka]

Sun, Sep 08, 2024 at 02:53:59PM +0300, Fatih Uzunoğlu kirjoitti:
> 
> I obviously disagree with that, otherwise I would not have written that at
> the first place. That being said, there is a reason harsh criticism exists.

Hi,

Harsh criticism exists mostly because giving critic is skill that lot of
people lack, and they think measurement of it is how harsh you can be.

> We are not interested in well-being of the patch authors, I don't think this
> is the place for that. The authors, that includes me, must be open to
> criticism.

We as a project should and need to be interested of well-being of the
patch authors, as those are the people who put time and effort on the
project. That includes you too.

> If you are someone who gets offended by criticism, then I'm sorry software
> development, or any scientific field, is not a right place for you.

Obviously I don't agree, sorry if the scientific or software field shows
like that for you.

> As said, the tone of criticism should be proportional to the effects of the
> cause. If your 10 lines of change causes multiple regressions, then it means
> you deserve such criticism. The idea is to make the authors think and act
> twice to not let the same thing happen again.

So you are implying that as your comments on that merge request caused
discussion about code of conduct related things, everyone else would
have right to be really harsh toward you, because your actions caused
possible conflict against project agreed rules? I'm not sure you are
actually agreeing on that?

> For the last years, I have been trying hard to fix the sorry state of the
> interface and I can not let the progress simply get eradicated.

Yes, You have put lot of effort to the qt interface and improved it a
lot.

> I would not expect VLC developers to get offended by criticism. I would
> expect VLC developers to take the criticism, albeit harsh, and improve
> themselves. Again, that obviously includes me.

Not all the time needs to be about self improvement by other people
merits. Same as you can agree that most likely you would not most likely
agree on improvements beneficial to you, what I would think could be.
Without either of us needing to be right on the matter.

-- 
Ilkka Ollakka

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