[streaming] Re: VLC and high profile users

Jean-Paul Saman saman at natlab.research.philips.com
Wed Nov 5 09:34:39 CET 2003


Brick Eksten wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> My name is Brick Eksten; I am the president of Digital Rapids.  We have 
> implemented VLC as an MPEG streaming solution for our product line 
> (www.digital-rapids.com) <http://www.digital-rapids.com)/>.  We are very 
> interested in supporting your project.  In our initial testing we found 
> and fixed a few bugs and contributed them back to the source tree.
> 
Thank you for the contribution we are pleased to see corporations 
deploying our videolan solution.

Please note that the videolan project is licensed under the GNU Public 
Licens version 2. A copy of the license can be obtained from this 
internet location http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html. All third party 
libraries used by videolan come with their own Open Source Licensing 
(usually the GNU Public License).

> 
> Because we are a commercial product company we have implemented our 
> interface to VLC through STDIN.  This was one bug we fixed.  We send 
> Transport stream video to VLC which as I understand, de-multiplexes the 
> transport stream and then re-multiplexes it for final transmission over 
> the wire to a VLC player. 
> 
That is correct.

>  
> 
> So far we have two customers who are very interested in using your 
> software.  These two customers are Samsung and Korea Telecom.  Korea 
> Telecom owns the most high tech network infrastructure in the world.  
> They can supply as much as 50Mb to each home customer for as little as 
> 20$ a month.  Their ultimate goal (the government of Korea) is to supply 
> educational access to all homes no matter how remote over this fast 
> network.  Samsung is looking to use VLC throughout their corporate 
> network.  This would mean literally 10s of thousands of employees using 
> VLC throughout their enterprise.
> 
>  
> 
> We are using our patched 0.6.1 release as it is the only version we have 
> tried which has stable video output all of the time.  The problem with 
> this version is that it simply stops after about an hour of transmission.
> 
> The 0.6.2 release has our STDIN fix included but we cannot get this 
> version to reliably play video smoothly in the VLC player.  It has many 
> stuttering problems which eventually lead to many errors.
> 

Is the vlc server introducing the stuttering? Could you stream TS stream 
to a local file and then play it. If this stutters, then there might be 
a problem in the muxing.

Usually the stuttering appears when vlc player cannot make use of 
Graphics Overlays. Is the windowing system support for overlays 
enabled?? Under Linux it means the XServer and graphics driver have to 
support it. Under  Windows the graphics driver and directx should 
support it.

Could you send logfiles with the errors? (Of vlc server and vlc player.)

> 
> We are very excited about supporting your software and I personally am 
> using our success with your software to convince our company to change 
> our software license from commercial to one that is open source based.  
> I think this is a big opportunity for the Videolan project to receive 
> some reasonable recognition in the corporate space but the current level 
> of problems are keeping these two customers from taking the project 
> seriously.  We continue to try to find the bugs in 0.6.2 but we have not 
> had much luck yet so I am turning to your group for support.
> 

If you send log files to the list then our developers can diagnose the 
problem and fix it or pinpoint what is wrong with the system it runs on.

>  
> 
> If you have any suggestions or if you feel that this is a project that 
> your team may be interested in supporting, please contact us immediately 
> as we are on a very tight schedule with both of these projects.
> 

We are an open source project and are always willing to help our user 
base with their problems.


>  
> 
> I can be reached through the contact information in my signature.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Brick
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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> Brick Eksten
> 
> President
> 
> Digital Rapids Corporation
> 
> 588 Edward Ave Suite 56
> 
> Richmond Hill, On L4C 9Y6
> 
> 905-884-8028x114
> 
>  
> 
> brick at digital-rapids.com <mailto:brick at digital-rapids.com>


-- 
Kind greetings,

Jean-Paul Saman
Videolan co-develloper and VLC iPaq port maintainer.


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