[vlc-devel] Re: VLC Mac OS X remarks by Felix

Vincent van den Heuvel heuvel at mac.com
Mon Oct 10 16:52:34 CEST 2005

Hi Felix,

> My preferred position of your new buttons is at the bottom of the  
> window actually, so they would replace our current popup-menu and  
> the shuffle-checkbox.

Why didn't I use the bottom screen-estate? Because of the screen- 
estate!!! I want to use the status bart for information! See example!  
If i add buttons to it, it will become either visually to large, or  
future editions of VLC Media Player will give interface problems  
(expanding with a extra buttons for example). In iTunes you'll be  
'traveling' around for your buttons, here we have
all our core functions near each other. If the statusbar is folded  
out by clicking 'Playlist'. We have to 'travel' downwards for those  
buttons. If we want to kill the statusbar and search function in  
'Simple View', we can't reach the buttons unless we click
the 'Playlist Button'.

> We don't need a new design of the volume-slider at the moment,  
> because we are using the iTunes-like-slider already (this was  
> implemented after 0.8.2, but you can check a current nightly build  
> to have a look at it).

I will change it back (I took it to the extreme because of the legal  

> BTW. It might be good if you subscribe to vlc-devel (you can do  
> that on developers.videolan.org), so you can get our responses  
> directly. Additionally, uploading attachments larger than 50 kB to  
> a webspace will make our moderators happy, because they have to do  
> that by hand otherwise.

I will do!!! ;-P

> What are the advantages of tiff-files btw.? I know that rsrc-files  
> are the old resource forks of the classic apps (and I'm pretty much  
> against picking them up again), but what's the point of tiffs  
> except that you can merge different images to a single file and  
> therefore have less files in your bundle?

I am not going to interrupt the current workflow, but from a Mac  
Developers 'point of view' it's easier to port an application
to a other platform using either resource files (iTunes, QuickTime  
and Airport Software) or TIFF/PSD files one file containing multiple  
resources. It's just like mouseovers using CSS instead of JavaScript.  
Javascript preloads the images and makes a call
to the image (ea MouseOver/MouseDown). In CSS you define a area (like  
a image map), the whole image is preloaded anyways. People preceive  
this as more responsive. Because of the tight dead-line forget about  
this for now. I'll create PNG resources for you.

> Indeed. Our first beta version 0.8.4-test1 was released on  
> September 26 and a second one is following as soon as possible. We  
> hope to release the final version at the end of october. It would  
> be nice to have your new buttons in that version already.

I'll do (as Yoda said: do or do not!) ;-)

> Your new drafts are really nice. I would prefer thicker lines  
> concerning shuffle and repeat, but except this, I like them. About  
> the volume-slider, see above please. I prefer our current one  
> actually.

I'll play with this...


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