[vlc-devel] [Asso] Update on the VLC project

Felix Paul Kühne fkuehne.videolan at gmail.com
Thu May 3 17:37:27 CEST 2012

On 03.05.2012, at 17:15, Ludovic Fauvet wrote:

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb at videolan.org> wrote:
>> To not help this fact, the tone on this mailing list and on IRC are not
>> correct. I have made this remarks quite a few time, in public and in
>> private, to MULTIPLE persons, but we have to go beyond that, since the
>> message did not go through.
>> Let me remind you of a few unacceptable actions:
>>  - insults on mailing list operated by VideoLAN,
>>  - insults on public IRC channels operated by VideoLAN,
>>  - forwarding a private conversation to a public mailing list (videolan@
>>     and asso@ are private)
>>  - IRL insults and phyiscal fights,
>>  - any false accusation, or slander,
>>  - any kind of threats,
>>  - ad hominem attacks,
>>  - blackmail,
>>  - insults on forum, wiki, trac and other web services.
>> Let me remind you of a few unwanted actions:
>>  - commits and reverts wars,
>>  - threats of revert wars,
>>  - rejection of other code without explanation,
>>  - rejection of other code with bunky explanation,
>>  - modification of our dev infrastructure without notification or
>>   with explicit disapproval,
>>  - commit with explicit disapproval from other core members.
>>  - shouting fights,
>>  - fights about some bikeshedding,
>>  - abuse of op rights on IRC.
>> The tone on the repositories has been mostly fine, lately, with no
>> commits wars nor pushing of very discutable piece of code.
>> In order to avoid the same situation we've been into, I suggest a few
>> things:
>>  - the creation of a technical arbitration committee, to avoid the
>>   YES/NO discussions, and whose decision will be final, like Debian or
>>   Rockbox,
>>  - a set of sanctions scale,
>>  - a review of those sanctions at our next meeting in Talinn and
>>   modification of Rules of Household, in consequence.
>>  - application of sanctions on this current situation.
>> Possible sanctions we have, on the scale:
>>  - Ban of mailing lists,
>>  - Ban of IRC channels,
>>  - Removal of commits rights,
>>  - Removal of non-profit rights, including travel and hardware donation,
>>   or dev program access,
>>  - Ban of dev machines access.
>> All of them can be temporary or definitive, depending on the issue.
>> Temporary sanctions should be automatic, in case of violation of the rules.
>> Recidive would increase the length of the ban.
>> Definitive sanctions should be voted at the next assembly.
>> Complaints should be done as soon as possible to abuse at videolan.org or
>> asso@
>> About the current situation, here is what I suggest (from suggestions):
>>  - Public excuse of behaviour of Rafaël on the mailing list,
>>  - Private excuse for insults on the mean of communication involved,
>>   by everyone who did those (last count was 5 people),
>>  - 1 day ban of Rémi, Rafaël and the other people from IRC channel for
>>   insults,
>>  - 1 week removal of commit access for Rafaël,
>>  - Warn Rafaël and other protagonists that any redo or teasing will create
>>   an immediate stronger sanction,
>>  - Vote at the next meeting to enforce any sanctions in a more permanent
>>   way or take another set of sanction (including but not limited to the
>>   debarment of individuals from the association or the project).
>> As Laurent suggested, complete removal of git rights should be kept only
>> when commits are screwed up, which is not the case here.
>> Hoping that this could set a better way to work together...
> Can't agree more.

Same for me. Absolutely.

Best regards,


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