[vlc-devel] [vlc-commits] vdpau: link against VDPAU_LIBS

Ilkka Ollakka ileoo at videolan.org
Wed Aug 7 09:41:04 CEST 2013

On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 08:57:20AM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 23:39:51 +0300, Ilkka Ollakka <ileoo at videolan.org>
> wrote:
> > I really look up to you as coder/vlc-devel, but that kinda behaviour
> > just makes me sad and angry. Nobody should be bullied in their hobby.
> > Even jpsaman even if he has consulting jobs related to vlc, he don't get
> > paid to commit stuff into vlc and so can be counted as hobby part.

> I have to disagree. Of the little stuff he commits, almost everything is
> wrong. And I am definitely not the only person having problems with this,
> even if I may be the most vocal (and in this particular case, the most
> directly affected).

I can't really agree on that based on recent commits. Just checked
jpsaman commits from past few years. And sure, there are few faulty
commits (and reverts) but most of the small commits seems ok. Are you
sure you are basing your opinion on recent stuff and not something from
years back?

> Everybody makes mistakes. But he makes almost only mistakes and refuses to
> adapt. That is unappropriate and it has been going on _literally_ for
> *years*. I don't care why, but this just has to stop. In fact, this has had
> to stop already years ago. I am not going to stop complaining until it
> stops. Period.

You have every right to complain, but you shouldn't think that the end
justifies the means. So instead of being in this cold flame-war stale
mate position when one move explodes rage and flaming, maybe some other
approach could be more fruitfull.

> You call that bullying because it's disrespecful? I must say that his

I call that bullying because you didn't really say anything about that
commit, instead started to shout out how everything is shit and wrong
always and it's all jpsaman fault.

Would you have ever mentioned that you intented the code to be so that
it doesn't need linking on those libraries, unless it wouldn't be asked
that whats the actual issue there? Thats the reason I call it bullying
and waste of time.

> attitude of ignoring the more "junior" developers (e.g. me) and continuing
> with his idiotic antics in the source code repository is much worse when it
> comes to being disrespectful. His shit has wasted entire days of my free
> time, and again, other people's too. If you call what I did bullying, then
> he deserved to be bullied.

Do you think this is the way to handle that kinda problems?

Ilkka Ollakka
PL/I -- "the fatal disease" -- belongs more to the problem set than to the
solution set.
		-- Edsger W. Dijkstra, SIGPLAN Notices, Volume 17, Number 5
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