[vlc-devel] [vlc-commits] posix: rely on F_DUPFD_CLOEXEC

Thomas Guillem thomas at gllm.fr
Tue Sep 24 19:25:07 CEST 2019



On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, at 10:43, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't think it's relevant who and why the UI was merged in a severe state of brokenness. We knew from earlier occasional regressions, third party bugs, and especially 0.9 era that breaking the UI gets on people's nerves very badly very quickly. And it's not just me.
> 
> For ****'s sake, just remind how people were pissed by the removal of the object tree panel - a much smaller loss of GUI convenience.
> 
> I don't follow how some people here can be so oblivious to this as to ask why the ambience has been crap since spring.
> 
> What is relevant is:
> 1) That it's still not fixed.
> 2) That Thomas keeps adding fuel to the fire by criticising people (especially but not only me), and representing his unstaffed hobbyist-averse mandatory review concept as the majority opinion with no facts to back it up.
> 
> If you have a better take on why the ambience went so sour, with the same people, since winter, I'd like to hear it...

I do really think that you are the only one responsible for the bad ambience. If I'm too responsible, I would love to hear it from other people. I won't hold any grudge, l'll just try to improve myself in that case.

So I'm open to private or public messages. 

> 
> Le 24 septembre 2019 10:11:34 GMT+03:00, "Hugo Beauzée-Luyssen" <hugo at beauzee.fr> a écrit :
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>>> You asked why the ambience is bad and I answered. I don't want to hear 
>>> excuses. If you don't like the answer that does not change.
>> 
>> That is your take on what's happening.
>> 
>>> If you think the GSoC ambience is more worthy than the vlc-devel 
>>> ambience, that is your subjective opinion. That does not change the 
>>> situation that the ambience is shit because of demotivate from UI 
>>> brokeness (like in 0.9) and from you picking on people who don't agree 
>>> with your mandatory review hypocritical nonsense.
>> 
>> As Thomas explained, he was charged with merging the UI, and objected about this, but still merged it because it was the path forward. I can take partial responsibility on this, being part of the board, but I don't think Thomas should.
>> 
>> The GSoC ambiance was not the goal, moving forward with the new UI was. Having students working on that helped a lot, and it wouldn't have been possible with the code unmerged.
>> 
> 
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