[vlc-devel] Report of potential Code of Conduct violation

[Ankit]

Hi

Glad that you're passionate about the quality of the project
and its patches.

However the tone of the feedback was very harsh regardless
of the intentions.
Advise watching these two videos on receiving and giving feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xeNLTH-kpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwKf-VolPI

Hope you take away something positive from them.

Also could you clarify what you seek by starting this thread?
 From what I read in the original mail, it's "public apology"
for the bugs but I haven't seen any such mails on this list so far. Is
that an established practice or guideline?

About the regressions, the author has been working on fixing them also.
So what else?

Ankit

On 08/09/24 17:23, Fatih Uzunoğlu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  >  I think you crossed that with your initial comment already.
> 
> I obviously disagree with that, otherwise I would not have written that 
> at the first place. That being said, there is a reason harsh criticism 
> exists. The idea is to make it less likely such things to happen again, 
> which is only beneficial to the project.
> 
> We are not interested in well-being of the patch authors, I don't think 
> this is the place for that. The authors, that includes me, must be open 
> to criticism.
> 
> If you are someone who gets offended by criticism, then I'm sorry 
> software development, or any scientific field, is not a right place for you.
> 
>  > You can give feedback in so many ways that can be way more 
> constructive, even if it may be frustrating.
> 
> My feedback _is_ constructive, as I stated what went wrong with the 
> changes, that is unlike the subject person's approach where he insulted 
> myself personally and engaged in so-called revert wars.
> 
> As said, the tone of criticism should be proportional to the effects of 
> the cause. If your 10 lines of change causes multiple regressions, then 
> it means you deserve such criticism. The idea is to make the authors 
> think and act twice to not let the same thing happen again.
> 
> For the last years, I have been trying hard to fix the sorry state of 
> the interface and I can not let the progress simply get eradicated.
> 
>  > You already took the punisher role to yourself here
> 
> I don't think anyone can get "punished" with words. Punishment means 
> action by limiting rights and I have no privilege for that (I have 
> neither blocking nor approver rights).
> 
> I would not expect VLC developers to get offended by criticism. I would 
> expect VLC developers to take the criticism, albeit harsh, and improve 
> themselves. Again, that obviously includes me.
> 
> I'm not part of a political agenda that effectively wants to forbid 
> criticism and punishment.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Fatih
> 
> 
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