Compiled 0.2.92 for Mac OS X

[St=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=phane Sudre]

le 21/01/02 23:18, Christophe Massiot à massiot at via.ecp.fr a écrit :

> Dear Stéphane,
> 
> At 20:58 +0100 21/01/02, Stéphane Sudre wrote :
> 
>>> I know that the standard for Objective-C is .m. But I couldn't get the vlc
>>> build system to work with ".m" files, so I changed the extension to ".c".
>> 
>> I don't understand since below you're saying you're using pbxbuild.
> 
> Once again, vlc is originally a UNIX application, and as such the
> build system is based on standard GNU make. I'm no specialist, but
> AFAIK pbxbuild is only used in the final stage of the build, after
> the vlc binary has been created by GNU make.
> 
> You may think it would have been better to use pbxbuild for
> everything

Not at all. It just makes sense to use it for the Front-End.
Since it's platform specific, I don't see why using the platform-specific
IDE is wrong or breaks the centralized makefile (you're not compiling the
Mac OS X Front-End when you're doing the build on a linux box, are you?).

> but it is not practical. Things are moving very quickly,
> files are created, files are removed, and having only one centralized
> Makefile to build binaries on all architectures is a lot easier to
> maintain.
> 
> BTW, you could have guessed all this by yourself by just looking at
> vlc.app in Makefile.

Sorry, but there's a decoy in Extras.

>> This is a very surprising because a lazy extern developer (like me) is
>> certainly going to compile the player with PB and the .pbproj "file".
> 
> Then we'd probably need to write it down to an as-yet-unwritten
> README.MacOSX. BTW we would welcome such a contribution. We would
> also welcome a gdb backtrace ; since you're saying vlc keeps
> crashing, it shouldn't be hard to get one.

No problem. Where do I send them?

> MacOS X isn't our primary platform of development, and that explains
> why vlc-X isn't as stable and well-written as its Linux counterpart
> (if someone wants to give me a PB G4, it may change :-)).

Yes, this is clearly stated on the Web Site.

Just a little parenthesis:

"why vlc-X isn't as stable and well-written as its Linux counterpart".

I let you guess what my stupid brain is thinking after reading the last
paragraph of your mail.

> ... but you don't appear to be willing to help on this.

That's where you're C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y wrong.

> Just the facts, as you say, so far your contribution has only
> resulted in a flame war with Florian ("my coding standards are better
> than yours", or something like that), and I can't see any
> constructive suggestion helping either to document vlc, or to debug
> it.

User documentation or developer documentation?

> I do not know what your intentions are, what you intend to do with
> vlc (I don't reckon you've said it somewhere).

To use it. And maybe to use the Interface for a ScreenSaver.

> It's up to you to tell us what you want to do.

Try to make the Mac OS X Version work !


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