[vlc] Re: Video Lan install suggestion

[Derk-Jan Hartman]

On zondag, apr 13, 2003, at 16:58 Europe/Amsterdam, Jay wrote:
> I'd really like to have all of the dependencies for the program in one 
> file. Maybe I'm old and stupid but I installed a lot of unix software 
> using ./configure and make. I sometimes had to debug their C code but 
> I did get them working. Since the creation of rpm and cpan I can't get 
> any thing except the most trivial programs to even install. I can't 
> figure out what I need, and if I do find out what I need I have no 
> idea where to get it.

Unfortunately, this is the way rpm works and how the different 
distributions like us to produce them (although i know nothing about 
the rpm's we have)
>
> Here's an example. I've got a mandrake 9.0 system. I downloaded the 
> files from your site and ran the command line you provided. What's 
> "libdv"?
libdv is the decoder for Digital Video (DV)  we use ( it's what Video 
camera's use)
>
> FINISHED --09:44:24--
> Downloaded: 487,386 bytes in 4 files
> The following packages have bad signatures:
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmad0-0.14.2b-4mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libffmpeg0.4.6-0.4.6-1mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libdvdread2-0.9.3-4mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/liba52dec0-0.7.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
> Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
> installing ./vlc-plugin-alsa-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> ./vlc-plugin-a52-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmad0-0.14.2b-4mdk.i586.rpm 
> ./vlc-plugin-dv-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm ./vlc-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libffmpeg0.4.6-0.4.6-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> ./gnome-vlc-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm ./vlc-plugin-mad-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> ./libdvdplay0-1.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libdvdread2-0.9.3-4mdk.i586.rpm 
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/liba52dec0-0.7.4-2mdk.i586.rpm 
> ./vlc-plugin-sdl-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> ./vlc-plugin-ogg-0.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
>
> Installation failed:
> 	libdv.so.2 is needed by vlc-plugin-dv-0.5.0-1mdk
install the libdv rpm

> 	libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by vlc-0.5.0-1mdk
This is part of glibc.
>
> Even better yet, libc.so.6 is on my system by urpmi doesn't seem to 
> think so:
Then you have a rpm problem ;) google, i'm sure others have had similar 
things once.

> [root at jupiter vlc]# ls -l /lib/libc
> libc-2.2.5.so      libcom_err.so.2.0  libcrypt.so.1
> libcom_err.so.2    libcrypt-2.2.5.so  libc.so.6

> If we, as developers, want Linux to be taken as a credible alternative 
> to Windows I think we really must do a better job than we are. The 
> distro that's widely touted as being so good, Mandrake, doesn't even 
> come with video player software. If a software developer can't install 
> a software package how can we expect the general public to do so?

as someone who completely has the same feeling, may i suggest the 
Gentoo Linux distribution to you? It's portage system is quite 
understandable and not by far as restrictive as rpm dependencies. It 
only compiles support for that what you have installed, but when it 
really needs something, it alerts you of this. there is also system 
with which you can make certain you have certain features. It's really 
well documented, and i have seen newbies install the system. It's a lot 
less hard to use then you'd at first would think. problem is of course 
that you need to compile everything from source, but with my celeron 
500 that only took me several days to do the complete setup (including 
configuring, reading documentation everything. After that maintenance 
is quite easy.

DJ

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Derk-Jan Hartman (thedj at users.sourceforge.net)
Co-Developer of the MacOS X port of vlc
http://www.videolan.org/vlc

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