[vlc] USB Audio Dongle compatibility when playing with some FLAC file

SDML L.M.Wong SZ lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com
Wed Jun 23 16:32:26 CEST 2010


To VideoLan support team

Dear Sir or Madam,

USB Audio Dongle compatibility when playing with some FLAC file


I am L.M. Wong, the R&D manager at Speed Dragon Multimedia Ltd. We are a manufacturer and exporter of computer peripherals manufacturer based in Hong Kong. Recently we develop a USB stero dongle based on VIA VT1620A. But I found out VLC Media Player for Windows has problem with some USB audio devices when playing FLAC file. Below is my findings on different kinds of media player and USB audio devices:

Symptom:  There is random silence of about 0.2 second happen on both L/R channels during FLAC file playback.

Operating System: Windows XP SP3 Simplified Chinese 

USB audio devices tested with the same FLAC file played by VLC Media Player v1.1.0:
  a.. CMedia CM119 demo board - OK
  b.. CMedia CM108 demo board - OK
  c.. CMedia HS100 demo board - OK
  d.. VIA VT1620A demo board  - FAILED
  e.. Creative Audigy2 NX  - FAILED 
  f.. Roland UA-1G  - FAILED
Audio files tested with VLC Media Player v1.1.0 and different kinds of USB audio devices lsited above:
  a.. MP3 - OK
  b.. APE - OK
  c.. WAV (PCM) - OK
  d.. FLAC - FAILED
Media player we tested with the same FLAC file played by different kinds of USB audio devices listed above:
  a.. Kugou 2010 (¿á¹·) v6.117 Build 6.1.17.393 - OK 
  b.. Foobar 2000 v1.0.3  - OK 
  c.. Songbird v1.7.3 Build 1700  - OK 
  d.. Real Player - OK 
  e.. TTPlayer 5.6 (ǧǧ¾²Ìý) - OK 
  f.. VLC Media Player v1.1.0 - FAILED
Conclusion:
  a.. VLC Media Player's FLAC decoder produces the 0.2 second silence issue when working with a USB audio device supporting high sampling rate (higher than 48Khz). 
I am a die-hard fans of VLC, please let me know what I can do to assist you on debugging. Attachment is the VIA VT1620A datasheet for your reference.


Regards,

L.M. Wong
Speed Dragon Multimedia Ltd




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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SDML L.M.Wong SZ 
  To: RoyalChuang at viatech.com.cn ; jim at lpdpsz.com.cn 
  Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com ; IceriverXu at viatech.com.cn ; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn ; SonicZhang at viatech.com.cn ; AlexCChen at via.com.tw 
  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·


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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: RoyalChuang at viatech.com.cn 
    To: lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com ; jim at lpdpsz.com.cn 
    Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com ; IceriverXu at viatech.com.cn ; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn ; SonicZhang at viatech.com.cn ; AlexCChen at via.com.tw 
    Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:47 PM
    Subject: RE: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·


    Dear L.M.:

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    From: SDML L.M.Wong SZ [mailto:lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com] 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:37 PM
    To: Royal Chuang; jim at lpdpsz.com.cn
    Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com; Iceriver Xu; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn; Sonic Zhang; Alex C. Chen
    Subject: Re: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·

     

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      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: RoyalChuang at viatech.com.cn 

      To: lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com ; jim at lpdpsz.com.cn 

      Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com ; IceriverXu at viatech.com.cn ; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn ; SonicZhang at viatech.com.cn ; AlexCChen at via.com.tw 

      Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:20 PM

      Subject: RE: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·

       

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      Http://www.via.com.tw 


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      From: Royal Chuang 
      Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:19 AM
      To: 'SDML L.M.Wong SZ'; jim at lpdpsz.com.cn
      Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com; Iceriver Xu; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn; Sonic Zhang
      Subject: RE: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·

       

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      TEL:86-755-33630666-6226

      FAX:86-755-33630688

      ZIP:518057

      E-Mail:RoyalChuang at viatech.com.cn

      Http://www.via.com.tw 


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      From: SDML L.M.Wong SZ [mailto:lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com] 
      Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:13 PM
      To: Royal Chuang; jim at lpdpsz.com.cn
      Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com; Iceriver Xu; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn
      Subject: Re: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·
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        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: RoyalChuang at viatech.com.cn 

        To: jim at lpdpsz.com.cn ; lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com 

        Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com ; IceriverXu at viatech.com.cn ; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn 

        Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:21 PM

        Subject: RE: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·

         

        Dear L.M:

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        RoyalChuang  Çfºëí®

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        VIA Technologieh INC.,LTD

        TEL:86-755-33630666-6226

        FAX:86-755-33630688

        ZIP:518057

        E-Mail:RoyalChuang at viatech.com.cn

        Http://www.via.com.tw 


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        From: jim [mailto:jim at lpdpsz.com.cn] 
        Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:13 AM
        To: 'SDML L.M.Wong SZ'
        Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com; Iceriver Xu; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn; Royal Chuang
        Subject: RE: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·

         

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        From: SDML L.M.Wong SZ [mailto:lmwong at sz.cn.speeddragon.com] 
        Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:57 PM
        To: jim
        Cc: wuquan at sz.cn.speeddragon.com; IceriverXu at viatech.com.cn; ken at lpdpsz.com.cn
        Subject: Re: VT1620A оƬÑùÆ·

         

        Hi Jim,


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