[x264-devel] GnomeMeeting (and OpenH323)

[JGJones]

The reason I am posting in here about GnomeMeeting and OpenH323 is if 
you go to http://www.bslvrs.co.uk - you will see RNID SignTalk - which 
is a video based relay centre for sign language use in UK (there are 
currently 3 systems in UK including that one).

However they all require the use of at minimum H.263 video codec (264 is 
better, 263 is accepted due to use of the DLink DVC-1000 videophone 
which use H.263 for video and quite a lot of Deaf people have that)

I sadly cannot use GnomeMeeting since the H.261 (which OpenH323 use at 
most) does not provide a good enough video for the interpreter to 
understand me during a relay session. Currently I am using the vPoint HD 
client from vcon - which is a Windows only H.323 application using H.264 
video.

Having dabbled in the video relay market - I was invloved in the 
building of one call centre using Cisco Call Manager - I know that this 
is a potentially huge market - there is a vast number of users in USA 
already, and while the UK's project is first for Europe as far as I 
know, but the company whom I worked for using Cisco Call Manager have 
plans to expand their service by setting up same thing across Europe.

This will potentially have access to hundred of thousands if not million 
of sign language users across Europe. I believe that with those people 
making heavy use of video calls - which will then do the same to their 
hearing friends...those hearing people (ie not deaf) might then 
appericate using video phone...it's possible that use of videophone will 
increase there as well...although that's an unknown!

Thus for me, it's too important to not ignore this video call issues :)

I asked in the GnomeMeeting mailing list if there was any issue against 
the use of x264 with GnomeMeeting (and for OSX? via XMeeting? I do not 
know if XMeeting make use of H.264 encoders that is present in OSX or 
use OpenH323). I was informed that there is incompatiblity with the 
licence that x264 and OpenH323 use - namely OpenH323 use MPL and x264 
use GPL.

 From my understanding of the licencing it seems that x264 need to put 
in a clause for OpenH323 so that they can use x264 with OpenH323? I'm 
not entirely clear on that but if that is the case then I would like to 
ask - would you guys consider letting OpenH323 use x264 so that they can 
provide H.264 video calls which can then be used in applications such as 
GnomeMeeting (and XMeeting?).

If not, may I ask if there is a reason why not against it?

Many thanks
-- 
JGJones

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